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november in illinois history. it's important to we come sewing when something difficult and deadly happens to the people. we're all in this together. >> overall, 12 different states were hit. the meteorologists saying yesterday as the most active day of the year. nbc's ron allen joins me now. do we have a full head count of that area? >> reporter: yes, they do, thomas. there's only one fatality report here. there's a lot of people still trying to get back into their homes. when i drove in here a long while ago, there's a long line of cars on the interstate highway about a mile in that direction because people want to come back here to see what they can salvage. they tell us these amazing stories of actually hunkering
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down in their basements in places like that. and coming up and seeing this, after just listening to these terrible noises. the horror of being in your basement, hunkered down for hours and hours. it's unbelievable. this is a subdivision. there are homes in that direction that i can see the damage. perhaps you can't. but it goes on for as far as the eye can see. you can see the force of the storm, how there's a piece of metal, like a roof or something, twisted around the branch of trees. it's striking to me when you see tornadoes, the damage, the leaves off the trees are completely gone. and the tree is still standing. just amazing how that happens. but you can see when you look at that house, just imagine what it's like to be there. but people survived. there were early warning sirens. people got out. a lot of activity on social media. people heeded those warnings or took shelter in their basements or storm shelters or got out of
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the area and went to a community shelter. that's the good news. we've seen teams going through this area. they're trying to make sure all gas lines are sealed off. there are some power lines down. we don't know exactly when people will be allowed to come back. they're hoping soon. authorities are hoping everything is safe. >> ron allen in washington, illinois for us. ron, thanks so much. we shift focus to our big story and it takes us to d.c. and the question being, ask obama care be fixed with the president's signature, credibility on the line? what if anything account white house and the president do to keep the law and this presidency from flat lining. the white house's next self-imposed deadline is coming up november 30th. and two obama insiders say the president's second term now hinges on just one thing. >> in the short term, as peter said, they're just going to have to slug it through and fix the website. that's the key there. >> once the website gets fixed,
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and it will, you have to step back and say, okay, what do i need to have confidence going forward for this law not just in the coming months, but the coming years? >> okay. so once it gets fixed. how do you measure fixes. according to "the washington post" the administration's goal is for 80% of users to be able to enroll using the site by the november 30th deadline. will that be enough for the president's fellow democrats, though, especially the 39 who defected to vote with republicans on a gop-backed bill to fix issues with the law. >> what you saw in the 39 people, maybe 9 people had real serious concerns. fact of the matter is, about 30 of them, and i've talked to them, were insulating themselves against sound bites. >> this is an issue that has to be dealt with. but it doesn't mean, oh, it's a political issue, so we're going to run away from it. no, it's too valuable for the american people. >> too valuable for the american people. joining me now new hampshire
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democratic congresswoman carol shea porter. you're among the 39 democrats who voted for friday's republican-backed bill by fred upton. meanwhile, were got the national journal coming out saying at aca obama care is a bill you that voted for, and now it's on life support. we have democratic colleagues saying that the bill guts the aca by allowing to sign up for inferior plans. what was your motivation going the way you went? voting for the other 39 democrats? is this strictly out of self-preservation? >> no, not at all. i said in 2010 when i was voting for the health care law, i went there to do what was right for my constituents. and i didn't think to the congressman about this, but in my particular instance, i looked
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at this as -- it's not on life support -- as i do, about all of the help that it's provided for americans of all ages, and people now have access to health care. but you know, there are some problems with it. and in new hampshire, we did not have the website up. >> right. >> and so there's nothing to compare. and you have the policy. the other problem is, we only have one insurance company. and they created way too narrow a network for people. so doctors were left out and hospitals were left out of the network. so, to me, this is saying, okay, let's take a breath here. let's tweak this, this allow people to keep a policy that may or may not be as good. because there's far more benefits in the new law coming, obviously, in 2014. but people have three choices. they could either go into the
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aca, or they could keep their old policy. or they could cancel. and i didn't want that to happen. so this is just a vote for my constituents and people that find themselves in that spot. >> if we talk about your constituency, you talk directly about new hampshire being a state where the state legislature blocked having its own exchange up. we look at other states like washington, kentucky, connecticut, the governors explain because community leaders grasp the importance of expanding health care coverage and have avoided the temptation to use health care reform as a political football. so do you think it's unfair for people to question your motivation to back fred upton's bill, knowing full well that that bill is not going to go anywhere from the house. the president has said he would veto it. so it's an effort in futility. but you know your constituents are going to know how you voted?
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but it doesn't do anything for you because it's not going to get out of the house. >> right. but the point is, again, i didn't see this as a republican or a democratic effort. and actually, the democrats trying to strengthen and do a much better job by saying that insurance companies had to list all the options that consumers had. and i wish that had passed. that was much stronger. but this was really about the consumer. i talked to my colleagues across the country. it's not working perfectly. some some places it's working very well. but the premiums are still out of reach or they haven't been able to compare. and people need to have confidence that they got the best deal. so you can't say buy a car but we're not going to show you all the cars that we have. we just want you to buy a car now. because the website was down, people didn't have the time to carefully weigh all of this. i am convinced that new
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consumers, new people on to the market, will look at these policies and say it's a much better deal to go on the exchange, and that they will. >> democratic congresswoman carol shea-porter of new hampshire, thanks for making time for me. joining me dnc communications director and rnc communications director. i want to start with you, shaun, asking kelly ayotte two time what the gop was offering up in place of obama care. she had no answer. and rick santorum agreed that republicans need to bring something to the table. he appeared on "morning joe." take a look. >> saying no is not enough. absolutely not enough. there are plenty of good plans out there implemented at state levels. look, i'll go back to john mccain. john mccain had a health care plan in 2008, if you look at
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that plan now, we'll tell you, that's a pretty reasonable plan. >> what is the gop alternative to obama care at this point? >> i think there's several. the point that we've been making all along is, if you're asking us, are we going to replace one government takeover of health care with another, the answer is no. if we're going to implement policies that will ensure that people are covered at a lower price, give them better medical care, then, yes. things like portability, so you can shop across state lines. something that's being prevented flight. right now. brings down their costs, allows them to get greater access. and then there's a number of things. lawsuit reform that will allow more interaction with doctors and keep prices down. there's a series of things but i think the difference in approach, thomas, is this, we believe you can do it one step
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at a time that makes smart decisions that doesn't interrupt service that is not a government wholesale takeover which is what democrats did. is this why we warned that this approach would lead to consequences that we see now. i.e., people getting their insurance canceling. plans and companies saying they're going to drop people. so i think it's a totally different idea of how to approach health care. as opposed to one is government-based and one is private sector based. >> you refer to every democratic member of congress being voted to making obama care move smoothly. as we heard from congresswoman shea-porter there, obviously actions speak louder than words behind the scenes. but is that the game to keep a stiff upper lip going into 2014, act as if this isn't making people nervous? >> well look, i think everyone from the white house on down understands that the rollout has
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not been nearly as good as it ought to be. but i still defy anyone to find one democrat out there who is doing what sean and his party want to do. which is repeal, go back to the way things were before. not one single democrat has said repeal this thing. we are unified in that. every single republican has said, repeal this thing. they are unified in that. and so heading into 2014, and this really shouldn't be been electoral issue, but heading into 2014, i'll take that choice any day of the week, between a party that is committed to expanding health care access and making it more affordable and has a lot on the books to do so. versus another party that hates that idea so much it was willing to shut the government down over it. i'll take that contrast any day of the week. >> sean, i'm not sure you saw. hold on real quickly. there's this recent interview that compared the u.s. health care model against other countries.
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it showed that americans spent far more on health care but received far less. in return. when you have this insurance company over the bottom line. it's always the bottom line, what's best for the bank. how do we make money. not so much what's best for patients. doesn't data like this point to why we need a health care overhaul? and what the aca is trying to do in the first place? >> no, there's nothing -- there's nothing in the aca that deals with cost containment. in fact, that's part of the problem of the reason we have a trust gap right now. because people were sold something that they're not getting. there's absolutely nothing in aca in obama care that brings costs down. what you're seeing, thomas, doctors saying i'm getting out of primary care physician. they're dropping medicare, tricare. doctors, specialties, oncologists or others, it's cash
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only and seek reimbursement on your own. doctors are saying we don't want to get involved in this. that's the exact wrong way to go. you're seeing that frankly not just here but in canada, too. it's specialized medicine that only the rich can afford. >> isn't that a trend that started under president bush, where large companies were purging people from health care and doctors were changing their policies based on the failed health care that we had in this country? the bush administration was not looking to do anything with that, although we did get an update with medicare part "d" that did not go so well, as you know. but that update people were not want to be parted from. but when we talk about the costs coming down, that is untrue. there are people who had huge savings from the fact that they have transferred over under the aca. there are people benefits greatly from the fact that there are no preexisting conditions they have to be worried about from actually getting covered.
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and if it's up to the private insurance companies, we're going to see more people getting these junk insurance policies that they're getting canceled about. what is it about the junk insurance policies that the rnc supports? >> it's a false choice when you say you support the aca or don't. most insurance companies say they will maintain keeping children on their parents until 26. preexisting conditions is something that most republicans are on board with. >> sean, you guys make that choice. >> excuse me? >> you voted 42 times. republicans voted 42 times to repeal or -- >> defund. >> repeal or defund obama care. right. >> that's the problem with the way you guys have -- >> and you guys have repeatedly chosen nothing. >> okay. let me -- >> when have you put --
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>> can i just say this? >> what are the proposals that you're saying -- you guys haven't put that forth? >> mo, let sean respond. >> okay, the way that democrats frame this. is when buying a car, if you don't like the radio. saying that you don't want a new car. the problem is, that's a false choice. you guys have loaded this thing up with so much fat and government bureaucracy -- >> hold on, wait a minute. let's talk about choices because you're willing to shut down the government. >> exactly. >> over the nga. you stalled the entire government costing us billions for that time period. >> exactly. >> and now, that was all to choke off oxygen because of the aca. the government was shut down? who owns the government shutdown? >> here's the deal. the government shutdown was very clear. we voted to fund everything put it. the mantra at the time was how dare you, it's a law, it can't be changed. now every time the president sees fit to unilaterally do
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things with executive order delay thing you and the dnc have no problem with a unilateral change of the law when it comes by executive order. but when it comes through the legislative process, how the constitution's laid out, how the system is supposed to work, suddenly, we're the bad guys. but every vote that republicans took was to keep this government operating with the exception of a law that most americans agree is not work and is not working well. >> sean, i don't think anyone out of rnc headquarters, anyone, believes that republicans were fighting to keep the government operating. democrats are committed. our president is committed to finding fixing to make the law work better. republicans are criticizing the law and they have not participated in the fixes at all. you guys continue to try to scare people and kill the program bit by bit. your speaker said that the other day. >> mo, let sean -- sean, i've going to give you the last word. >> one piece for both mo and
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thomas since i'm debating both of you. this is the reality. you guys jam through a bill through the house of representatives, did not care what republicans thought. in fact, when scott brown won that seat in massachusetts, you voted so quickly to ensure that not one republican will have input in the senate. and you now you complain about republicans being part of the fix. you didn't care what we had to say during the time. >> this is not true. >> nancy pelosi made it clear. you'll have to read the bill when it's passed. because you didn't want to take the time to listen to republican ideas to get republican input and now you want to blame us. that's not how it works. >> the secret is this whole thing was bit on conservative republican ideas in the first place that you all cut and ran from because this president is the one who promoted it. >> zero votes. zero republican votes because you didn't want to work with us. you didn't care about our ideas. and now you want to blame us. it doesn't work that way. >> that's just not how it
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happened. >> when we passed part "d" and that's a great success. >> guys, we've got to leave it there. mo from the dnc, sean from the rnc, this was fun. let's do it again. >> thanks for having us. >> thanks. so the question of the day for you is about obama care, and can the white house fix the website and restore the president's credibility, weigh in on twitter and facebook. then, the cheney sisters, the war on words it spills into social media. >> your position on same-sex marriage, your sister mary who is married to a woman. >> i love her family very much. his is just an issue in which we disagree. >> we take a look at how it could impact liz cheney for senate. also this. a drank too much. i smoked some crack sometimes. what can i say, i made a mistake. >> toronto's mayor once again
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i do believe it's an issue that's got to be left up to the states. i do believe in the traditional definition of marriage. i love mary very much. i love her family very much. this is just an issue in which we disagree. >> those comments by wyoming senatorial candidate and liz's sister mary. mary writing on twitter, liz, this isn't an issue on which we
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disagree. you're just wrong and on the wrong side of history. then liz's sister-in-law heather poe wrote, liz has been a guest in our home. has spent time and shared holidays with our children. and when mary and i got married in 2012, she doesn't hesitate to tell us how happy she was for us. >> joins us now, bill clinton's top adviser on lbgt civil rights. richard, great to have you here. this is obviously a very private family feud allowed in on the public of the cheney family. is liz being a hypocrite or being transparent and trying to be a homophobe to be elected in womening? wyoming? >> well, it's complicated.
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it mirrors what families are having who struggle with this issue and perhaps more in the old-fashioned arena of a family are coming to it. but you're right. what you worry about here for liz cheney is whether or not she's really being authentic. is she taking this position so she can be more in tune with the voters in wyoming where she's running for the senate. or is this really what she believes. and it's -- you one wonders, given the history in her family. the father, dick cheney, the vice president has been a longtime support of marriage equality even as a vice president. so it's complicated. families are complicated. >> they certainly are. one reason liz may feel offensive about this because of the ads she's being hit with in wyoming. i want to show a peek to everybody. >> in wyoming cheney conserampa as a conservative.
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>> is it politically sustainable for candidates to say they're in favor of marital rights and in recognition of federal government, but not so much for marriage. when you have such a dynamic political family as the cheneys. and this deep divide, among the younger generation of cheneys, that's really telling. >> well, let me say this, is it possible? yes. i think it is possible that liz could be happy for her sister and support her sister's family. and still stake out a political position against marriage equality. but is it likely -- >> by throwing her under the bus, she wants to be rewarded by wyoming voters by throwing her family, her sister and those kids under the bus to say that they are not eeququal to her. and wants to be rewarded for it by the wyoming voters? >> you asked me if i think it is
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possible. i think it's possible. but i think it's very hard to believe that it is not just a political position that she's taken in a very calculated way to appeal to wyoming voters. >> okay. so let's talk about this. ironically, it was ten years ago today in november, when massachusetts opened the door for same-sex couples to legally wed. the sun still comes up in massachusetts. >> shocking, i know. shocking. >> today, we have 15 states in the district of columbia allowing for marriage equality. illinois is set to be the next with the governor there signing a bill into law on the 20th. with more than half of americans supporting marriage equality. and we haven't seen any republicans truly -- we haven't seen any republicans truly punished for not supporting a family member. that if they believe in marriage equality. >> or for supporting -- >> or for supporting legislatively. so do you think there will be -- her opponent, mike enzo has
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supports equality. >> maybe it's what she really believes, who knows. but the decision you referred to in massachusetts, ten years ago today, massachusetts game the first state to have marriage equality court imposed. and ten years ago, marriage equality was neither inevitable, nor impossible. but ten years later. one-third of the u.s. population live in states where there's marriage equality. and we've seen a sea change. it's probably the most successful political movement of our lifetime. >> they have marriage equality and mandated health care. what does massachusetts know that the rest of us don't know, right? what do you know up there? >> and mitt romney as governor. >> oh, yes. richard great to see you, sir. a big psychological hurdle crossed on wall street this morning. the dow hitting a new high. look at these numbers.
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live" taking a crack at toronto mayor rob ford. the city council is set to meet to strip away more of ford's power. by the end of the day, he could be known as the mayor in name only. >> they said do you smoke crack, and are you a crack addict? no, i don't smoke crack and i'm not a crack addict. have i? yes, i have. i didn't lie. i don't smoke crack in over a year. >> semantics. >> typical meeting. >> joining me is adrian batter from the toronto sun and also ford's campaign manager during the campaign mode. it's good to have you back on with us. despite the canadian football league and the argonauts asking him not to show up at their game, he did. the mayor posing for picturing,
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treated like a rock star. not so much as the famous man, but the infamous mayor. doesn't seem like he's going to acquiesce for calls for resignation? >> no, you're absolutely right. which is parse and parcel in the way that mayor ford has acted since he's been elected. 2010. regardless of what happens with council, he's going to down with a fight. you know in his mind, that's what the taxpayers of toronto put him in power to do. fight for them. we'll we'll see in the next hour and a half, toronto city council moving ahead to take more and more of his power. i should say for your audience, isn't it an extraordinary amount in the first place. we don't have a very strong mayor system in toronto. it's not like the american
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counsel that can go in and tell them what or whatnot to do. what we saw friday they took away ostensibly his chief magistrate duties being able to appoint or take off councillors in those commits. what we're going see is them take that one step further and strip his office budget down to $30,000 which is what a counselor gets. we spoke to mayor ford's lawyer who said they didn't go ahead -- they didn't try to block the council from moving ahead today because they couldn't make an emergency motion to do that. this is all going to unfortunately end up in the courts at some point. sadly, it's going to be the taxpayers paying for much of this. >> adrienne, he and his brother launch a tv show, is there a high interest in this show? it's supposed to be a political show, right? >> it's incredible.
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it's called "ed foford nation." they've taken a lot of questions from the audience from around toronto. there is an incredible amount of interest. pretty much, it doesn't matter what these guys do, they're going to be interest no matter what. >> adrienne batra, thank you for your time.
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there in washington, illinois. an update on this developing story that we're following where the governors of illinois and indiana are out now. illinois governor pat quinn is scheduled to give a fresh update at noon eastern. at least five states were hit by the storm outbreak. one man capturing video of the massive twister outside of his living room window. the independent versinvestir looking into the miami dolphins bullying scandal. espn is reporting that the focus is shifting to the team's offensive line coach. according to espn, jim turner is now considered a person of interest after ted wells spent seven hours questioning former player jon cheney "bleacher re
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ryan, you note in the "bleacher report," what you described to be a more reserved player or, quote, the team weird dough. take into account the certainly experience what it felt to be on the inside but on the outside like a jonathan martin. >> whaell, what jonathan martin seems to be dealing with predominantly is a case of being the outsider. soft-spoken character type. had a difficult time fitting in with his teammates feeling like a guy from the outside looking in. and i can relate to that myself. being biracial, half black and half white. maybe there was elements of not knowing exactly what culture he most belonged to. maybe just his level of education made it difficult for him to interact with guys.
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and when that's sort of the backdrop in the locker room environment. and you have to deal with the normal razzing and hazing and teasing that goes on, it kind of amplifies the feeling that you don't belong. >> i was going to say, ryan, so there's the player dynamic and the leadership dynamic that goes into the team. now we have the name of jim turner reportedly being added to the mix here based on jonathan martin and this guy known for being a little rough around the edges. what more have you learned about jim turner and his relationship to players and specifically to jonathan mart jn. >> i don't know the details to jim turner specifically in how he interacting with jonathan martin, but we can assume it involved some level of him needing to toughen up. jonathan martin needing to toughen up. and the delicate balance of a line that a coach has to walk when he is trying to make a
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player tougher. a necessary evil in the nfl, i should say. >> so one thing that has been of high interest to everybody is learning who jonathan martin is, after quitting the team. he kept pretty quiet but he did read a prepared statement. i just want to read part of that video clip. >> today's meeting was consistent with my commitment to cooperate with the nfl as my experience with the miami dolphins. this is the right way to handle the matter. beyond that, i look forward to the process and resuming my career in the national football league. >> so, ryan, he talks about resuming his career in the national football league. do you think or how you know how the nfl works would something like jonathan martin be considered a pariah and not have a future in the league? >> unfortunately, i think he will be considered a pariah. he will have a difficult time trying to land with another team. definitely not going to play with the dolphins, in my opinion. obviously speculation. but wait he went about this,
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right or wrong, players and teammates are going to look at it as a guy who jumped outside and tried to handle it through the media. and they're going to see him as somewhat responsible for blowing this whole thing up into the saga that it's become. >> former nfl player and now columnist with the "bleacher report" ryan riddle. great to have you. thank you, sir. >> thank you. today's producer pick comes to us from our executive producer. thousands of volunteers came out in force over the weekend for one little guy with a big dream miles scott a 5-year-old with leukemia in remission transformed into bat kid with the help of a make-a-wish. he stopped the riddler from robbing a bank. rescued a woman on the tracks and stopped the penguins. get this, president obama even sent bat kid a message.
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in today's education nation segment parents opposed to nationwide common core standards are protesting today and they're doing so by keeping kids home from school. 45 states including the district of columbia, four territories and the department of defense education activity have adopted the common core state standards in english, language and math. the program was created by state education officials and governors, and it covers english, language and math standards. and it's intended to prepare kids for college and the real world. the international stage. and while it has been endorsed by the obama administration, it is not a federal initiative. joining me now, though, janet wilson, a mom from upstate
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new york who has organized a protest in albany today. janet, it's good to have you here. let's talk specifically about new york state. your home state, common core was adopt 2010 but the full implementation goes in effect this coming school year so it's fair to say there are kinks to be worked out your top five complaints are the cost, quality alleged indoctrination, loss of local control and data mining. and you feel on indoctrination it's god uniting his arming. here are the issues you take issue with, multiculturism, political correctness, diversity, global warming, homosexuality and social justice. janet, explain all of that. are social justice and multiculturism, are they bad words for kids in your world? >> well, first of all, i want to thank you so much for having me and giving me this opportunity to speak to fellow american.
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>> certainly. >> the biggest issue for me is the fact that common core infringes upon our tenth amendment constitutional rights. the tenth amendment was instituted to ensure that the federal government would only exercise powers that were stated as permissible in the constitution. all other powers not directly referred to in the constitution were delivered to the individual stateses, please correct me if i'm wrong, there is nothing in the federal constitution that permits the federal government could power over education. therefore, all power to education is delivered to the individual state. >> so, janet, i see you're reading from bullet points here. >> yes, sir, i'm nervous. >> that's okay. don't be nervous, that it's like we're around the kitchen table, this is good. but when we talk about common core and take a look at the curriculum from a federal level, do you think that all states should be on their own when that comes to setting curriculum? >> yes.
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education is not a power that is permitted to our federal government. education should be controlled within the states. demographics vary throughout this in the states. demographics vary throughout the country. we should not have one size fits all. a disabled child should not take the same as an honor student. >> in protest of this, in protest of education and not agreeing with this, you are keeping your kids out of school so that they won't be educated. >> my daughter isn't old enough to be in school yet. i care enough about not only my own child but every child in this country to speak out. more about the country. >> the important message that you want other parents to take out of this is what? >> we want to raise awareness. unfortunately when the federal government asks the states to sign onto the race to the top
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program and align their curricula with common core state standards, the common core state standards were not even written yet. that is where the problem lies. this has been swept under the rug. the federal government just dangled a carrot and said you want money, come and get it. okay, american people. we got duped. now is the time to stand up and take control back. we are not going to let these fema for our children any more. common core is bad. >> janet wilson. >> if you want to talk about preparing students for college, i'll tell you something right now. the only two k through 12 to approve common core standards refused to sign off on them. these experts said new standards would fail to prepare students for four-year colleges. common core will prepare students for two-year colleges. i want my daughter going to a four-year college. i don't know about the rest of you. >> janet -- >> i want the option. >> janet, we've got to leave it right there. thanks for coming and joining me
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that's going to wrap things up for me here today. thank you for your time. i'll see you back tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. joining me former governor bill richardson. don't go anywhere. "now" with alex wagner coming your way next. hi there, alex. >> hey, thomas. as the calendar nears november 309, the obama administration faces great expectations. we'll discuss the 80% with robert gibbs, kathleen parker, sally comb, washington state insurance commissioner mike cryingler. from christie to walker, clinton to warren, we'll look at the growing list of 2016 contenders. we'll monitor the latest vote to
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than the last aca figure when only six americans were able to enroll on launch day. in the past month it seems there has been progress. according to health care czar jeff zients, the site is reportedly handling considerably more volume and wait times have gone down to less than one second. the fixes do not end at dot-com. on friday president obama met with insurance executives, last minute administrative fix, workability insurers have questioned and that is, indeed, a euphemism. that same day 39 democrats backed a law while democrats in the senate continued to push for more fixes. "new york times" reporting democrats are in a panic at the recent reversal of political fortunes, house speaker nancy pelosi is remaining confident. >> the rollout of the website, that's terrible. but